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Dawgs
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:13 pm |
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i have a $30 coupon from cabelas and a $30 credit so i think im gonna order the vx-II this week
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andycap
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:43 pm |
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I put a Leupold Ultimate Slam 3-9x40 on my 220. Not impressed with it all, stick with a VX-II or VX-III. Used 2 piece bases. I used 1 offset ring for the front mount and 1 standard for the rear mount. The downside was the shop I bought the rings from only had offset rings that were "High" mounts. So the scope is mounted much higher than my liking. The upside was out of the 40 rounds I've put though it (SST's and Accutips) ejection has been much better than the Savage 210 I had for a little bit. I was lucky for the 210 to cleanly eject 2 out of 5 shells. It was still a good gun but that drove me crazy. The 220 seemed much better (I think I had two failed ejections). Sorry for the poor resolution... 
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mn lineman
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:47 pm |
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This weekend I handled a new 220 and was surprised to learn that it has a 90 degree (or close to it) bolt throw, and not a 60 degree like the 210. This particular sporting goods store also had a scope mounted on it, and it too had to be mounted with extension rings. It didn't occur to me until later that I should have compared mounting bases with the 210 that was sitting right next to it, having definately compared the degree of bolt travel. Nonetheless, I personally don't like the long radius bolt throw; my hand hits the scope everytime I cycle the bolt. It also occurs to me that trying to mount the scope with anything lower than medium height rings may make the bolt/scope/hand issue even more prominent.
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:53 am |
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Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 4
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Evolution Gun Works(EGW) Picatinny rail #2120 for Savage LA Round Back fits the 220 and was recommended to me by Savage customer service. I have purchased one and mounted it on my 220. It works fine but you must experiment to make smooth ejections, no different from 210 which I also own. You can mount any scope you wish with this mount. I got one from Midway USA as EGW said thsy couldn't find the two they supposedly had in stock. They apparently found one and sent it to me so I have an extra I am willing to part with. You may contact me at transfer@usppp.com. Egw is making more mounts as we speak. Should be ready in about a week. I hope this helps. HRM
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jcchartboy
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:00 am |
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Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:08 pm Posts: 3076 Location: Hudson River...NY/NJ
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HRM,
That is great info!!
JC
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BPS 10
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:46 pm |
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RandyWakeman
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:27 am |
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whereemout wrote: found this out the hard way. the action is so long and the front and rear mounts are so far apart you need extention rings and a long barreled scope for the proper fit. It's hardly that dramatic; it's the same as any other Savage 110 long action round receiver front and rear w/ Accutrigger: 
_________________ --Randy
http://randywakeman.com
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geoplug
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:24 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:43 pm Posts: 4
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hello everyone, just picked up a savage 220 and ordered the egw 2120 rail should be here early next week. I was wondering what rings you found work the best as far as clearance and ejection goes thanks in advance
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eyeswideopen
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:59 pm |
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Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:04 am Posts: 97 Location: Mt Vernon IL
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Checked the Weaver website, they list a #61 in back and #46 base in front for a Savage 110 long action. I picked up my 220 tonight at the local shop. My dealer didn't have any #61's so I'm calling around tommorrow for one. I've got a Bushnell Trophy DOA 250 and Warne Maxima permanent rings ready as soon as I get bases. I'll post pics of the setup and ranges results as soon as I can. My dealer did get a case of Remington accutip 20's. Based of the Savage recommendation, that's the load I'm starting with.
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RandyWakeman
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:18 am |
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Quote: Checked the Weaver website, they list a #61 in back and #46 base in front for a Savage 110 long action. No, that is for the older, pre-Accutrigger 110. Look a bit lower on the chart, it uses #46 bases front and rear.
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eyeswideopen
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:21 am |
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Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:04 am Posts: 97 Location: Mt Vernon IL
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Thanks, Randy. That'll save me some aggravation, frustration etc. especially after bases have been mounted with Loctite.
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woodsman324
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:57 pm |
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I just bought a 220 and mounted a leupold VX3 3.5-10 as suggested in this thread. I used the Weaver #46 mounts front and back with Weaver med height rings. I have run in to 2 problems. The scope has been adjusted up all the way and I'm still about 2 inches low at 100 yds. The other problem is the shells being ejected are hitting the scope and and dropping back or hanging in the open chamber. The trigger pull was very heavy and I'll fix that later. I hope that they come from the factory on the heavy side. I did shoot a 2 in group at 100 yds with the Rem Accutips even with the other problems on my mind. I have a pic of the group but in another thread I tried to post a pic and it wouldn't take, not sure whats up but I'm pretty happy with the group for starters.
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:35 pm |
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This site has been very helpful in setting up my 220. Since my results have been beyond my expectations, I thought I should share my experience. I mounted a Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x40mm with the EGW 2120 rail and Warne Maxima medium rings #201. I had a lot of room to adjust the scope and just enough clearance between the rail and scope. If you use the 2120, you should be able to mount any scope. I headed to the range and the results varied significantly between loads. I would listen to Savage and use their recommended shells. Having said that, I experimented quite a bit with different loads before I settled on the 3” Accu-tips. I wanted to use Remington Core-Lokts, however, they were a disaster. Hornady patterned well at 50 yds, but opened up at 100. The 3” Federal Barnes Tipped patterned OK at 50. I didn’t take them out to 100. Once I shot the 3” Accu-tips, I realized things could get no better. I shot 15 rounds and never had an ejection problem. However, I did have a problem with the other loads. Here are a few of my targets. I apologize for the cheap paper. I spent all of my money on guns and shells. Note that the covered hole on the Accutip target was before I adjusted the scope. I marked the two shots at 50 yds and the two shots at 100 yds. Thanks for your help.   
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:50 pm |
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i just put together my 220 with Warn Med rings and basesi I mounted a Nikon 2.5x 10 Monarch .The gun shoots great with Winchester PLANTNIUM Supremes 1 1/4 at a hundred yards. I am buying the comb raising kit by bear tooth as JC suggessted .But I am having ejection problems (on the gun that is). The spent hulls hit the scope .I know it is a stupid question but is there any other way to fix this with out high or extra high rings? The sope sits great now .Would the Picante Rail that savage recamends help at all ? Also had two shell not fire with the barns sst. The primers seemed to be set deep I hope thats what it was. The winchesters fired great. Thanks for the help this sight is awesome.
Woodie
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woodsman324
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:16 pm |
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I just recieved the base from Savage and it seems half again higher than the weaver 46's on the gun now. It is a one piece base but it came in a plain shipping envelope and has no marking on it to ID it. When I told them at Savage I was having ejection problems and asked what base they suggest she just asked for my address and sent this to me free. I thought that was pretty cool.
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jcchartboy
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:58 pm |
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woodsman324 wrote: I just recieved the base from Savage and it seems half again higher than the weaver 46's on the gun now. It is a one piece base but it came in a plain shipping envelope and has no marking on it to ID it. When I told them at Savage I was having ejection problems and asked what base they suggest she just asked for my address and sent this to me free. I thought that was pretty cool. Sounds like they may have just sent you a Savage 210 base...which come free with the 210 guns. JC
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:28 pm |
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I just mounted a 3x9 40mm Leupold on my 220 Savage using EGW One Piece Base and Warne 21L Medium Rings, same set up as Cutty,I problem started when I tried to Boresight with a laser boresight tool, the style that looks like a shotgun shell, I have the elevation adjustment all the way up and just line up with the beam, the windage is ok. Do I have a problem with the new boresight tool or is it in my base, I havn't shot in yet. Hope theirs nothing wrong with my new scope.
Any help would be apprectated. Thanks, CD Auto99
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hubel458
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:48 pm |
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Is the 220 20ga a two lug bolt with 90 degree throw to open, like the 110-112 long bolt action rifles??Ed.
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cdauto99
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:23 am |
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Yes, Round Reciever, I also decided to read the instruction manual on the laser boresight, i says to turn on laser and aim at a object or target at about 20 to 30 yds. not the 20 feet like I was doing going to try at the 20 to 30 yds hopefully that the problem. Operator Error Maybe 
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josepi
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Post subject: Re: 220 scope mounting problem Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:42 am |
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I was about to go order 3 of these 220F's till im reading this....I was going to order one for me, my dad and brother but it sure seems like a lot of trouble just getting a scope on it...Is there any clear precise ways to just mount a scope? or do i have to run around trying 8 different bases and rings to get a scope mounted? Why has savage left the public out there to fend for themselves?
Obviously they know that there is ejection problems with certain setups....
So what is actually recomended without having to spend $200 on different bases and rings?
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