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 Post subject: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:18 pm 
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I just bought a Winchester Model 12 Duck Gun in 3 inch magnum. I finally located a box of Federal Premium 3 inch Magnum Shotshells and they measure exactly 2 1/2 inches. I then measured a 2 3/4 inch shotshell and it measures 2 1/2 inches. Where is the 3 Inches in the 3 inch magnum and why does it measure the same length as a 2 3/4 inch shotshell?




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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:26 pm 
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They are 3 inches after they are shot and the crimp is out. Don't know why 3 inch shells and 2 3/4 would be the same unless your measuring a fired hull against an unfired hull?


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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:43 pm 
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Both the 3 inch and 2 3/4 inch shotshels were unfired. That is what I found puzzling.


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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:59 pm 
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Pictures, please of both shells and the box they came in.


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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:28 pm 
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depends how they are sealed/crimped....or paper ended type cartridges.
measure them after shooting and see what they all measure

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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:00 pm 
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What should an unfired 3 inch 12 Gauge Magnum shotshell measure, in length?

I cannot send pictures, as my camera is no longer operational.


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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
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It is all nominal unfolded length.

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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
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I believe I am correct in saying that 3" shells have it marked on them (- 3 IN./76mm -). At least those currently available.


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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
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I have in front of me one 2 3/4 inch and one 3 inch shotgun shells made by Winchester.

The 2 3/4 inch shell measures exactly 2 1/4 inch

The 3 inch shell measures exactly 2 1/2 inch

This is right out of the box.

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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
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Thankyou for all the information you have given me regarding shotshell length. I had never measured an unfired shotshell before and only did this time, due to the similarities of a 2 3/4" shotshell to a 3" shotshell. Thanks again for the info.!


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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
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A "2 3/4 inch shot shell" will be less than 2 3/4" when crimped. Depending on the crimp style and length, it should be approx. 2 1/4 to 2 3/8". They do differ, depending on length. And incidentally, they are NOT NECESSARILY a full 2 3/4" long after firing, they can be that length or a little shorter.

The same rule applies for a "3 inch shot shell", but just add a 1/4" to the dimensions.

Remember, though, that all these dimensions are designed to be fired in that length of gun chamber. As uncrimped, that is the MAXIMUM length that is specified, and in practice, they are that length or shorter. It does vary by manufacturer, and there is lot-to-lot variation, as well.

Again, though, it's the measurement of the GUN CHAMBER LENGTH that is most important. It dictates the maximum (uncrimped) case length that the firearm is designed to shoot. They can safely fire that maximum length, or shorter, shells in the gun.

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 Post subject: Re: 3 Inch Shotshell length measurement question:
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:21 am 
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Thank you for the additional information! To think, with all the years I have been shooting and never took the time, to measure a loaded shell for its' actual length and to learn it is the fired length of the shell that is measured.




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