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 Post subject: Remington Model 1889
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:31 pm 
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The Remington 1889 I own has some strange characteristics. First, it is impossible to seperate the barrels from the rest of the gun. Lockup is tight and the barrels pivot down for loading. The extractor works as it should, but it is impossible to break it down any further. Is this the way it was designed or do I have a problem to deal with? Second, the barrels do not exhibit a damascus pattern nor are they clearly marked "nitro" or any other symbol I can interpret as a proof mark. I found info on the internet that indicates Grade 1 Model 1889s were offered with "decarbonized steel" barrels. What the heck is that? Also is it possible the factory refitted the gun at some later date and if so, how would it be marked to indicate that?




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 Post subject: Re: Remington Model 1889
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:48 pm 
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The forearm must be removed in order to remove the barrels from the frame/receiver. There were seven grades of the Model 1889. One had fluid steel barrels and the others had damascus, laminated or twist steel barrels. There are numbers stamped either on the bottom of the barrels or on the water table that tell which grade the gun is and the type of barrels. Post those numbers and we can identify your gun. Also post the serial number and we can give you the year it was made.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Model 1889
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:01 pm 
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Lol...I understand the forearm must be removed, but the barrels will still not seperate. Under the left barrel (moving from the breech to the muzzle), there is a fancy P, then what appears to be a 1, then another 1, then a G and finally an 8. The right barrel is the same, except there is a small p between the fancy P and the 1. Serial number under the forearm is 232859 and, forward of the latch, are the numberts 453.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Model 1889
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:46 pm 
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I apologize if I insulted your intelligence but you'd be surprised how dumb some people can be about guns. As I said, there were seven grades of the Model 1889. All were pretty much the same except for barrel material and the amount and quality of engraving. All had pistol grip stocks, a hard rubber butt plate and a matted rib. Grade no 1 had a fluid steel barrel, the rest had either damascus or twist steel barrels. Grades 4 through 7 had increasing amounts of engraving. Gun serial number 001 was made in 1889 of course and the last one, serial number 250,401 was made in 1910. Serial number 232,859 was made in mid 1908. Serial numbers for 1908 began with 236.001 and ended with serial number 243,200. The number 1 stamped under the barrels indicates you have a Grade 1 with fluid steel barrels. Back then, damascus barrels were preferred and were safe for the ammunition in use then. My reference book "The Breech Loading Shotgun In America 1860 to 1940" written by the late Joseph T, Vorisek has this to say about the Model 1889. "The Model 1889 was the result of a series of changes made to the Models 1882,1883,1885 and 1887 and it is probably the epitome of the American made hammer double in terms of strength, durability and general construction. The Model 1889 was made in 10.12 and 16 gauges with 28, 30 or 32 inch barrels." I too have a Model 1889 and if I remove the forearm and open the barrels, they almost fall off the receiver.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Model 1889
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:22 pm 
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You needn't worry about insulting my intelligence. Thank you for the great answer. I have been shooting 2" Poly-wad shells in the gun because they develop only about 6000 psi and other than the failure to seperate, I have been very pleased with the gun.

Thanks again for the help.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Model 1889
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:20 am 
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Just a dumb question - you are pulling down on the latch on the bottom of the forearm when trying to remove the forearm, aren't you?

(And I'm not insulting your intelligence), but some folks are unfamiliar with that method of takedown.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Model 1889
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:53 pm 
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Yep, forearm removes without problem.




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