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 Post subject: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:05 pm 
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My hunting buddy is trying to buy his son a 20 gauge youth model for X-mas present. Need advice on which to get. Here's what we've looked at so far:

Benelli "short stock" 12 1/2" LOP
Beretta Urika AL391 Youth 13 3/8" LOP
Remington 11-87 youth 13" LOP

I've also heard of a Rem 1000lt but I can't find it on their website.

Also, his kid is a little short-armed....so anything with short LOP would probably be best. Also, he's interested in putting on a longer stock after the kid grows....can that be done with above guns?

thanks in advance. JED


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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:59 pm 
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The Winchester 1300 20ga Y-model is a good one. Thats what I started with. If you don't mind an o/u or SxS, stoeger makes a Y-model Conder and Uplander with a 13" LOP.


http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/condor.tpl


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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:19 pm 
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Charles Daly makes a light (5 lb.) 20 guage pump with a 22" barrel in a youth model, which should help out with short arms.

Here's the link to their website with the page that gun is on:

http://www.charlesdaly.com/html/products/firearms/shotguns/pump/pump.asp

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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:20 pm 
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And here's a pic of the camo version:

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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:22 pm 
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Oh yeah, it has a 12 1/2" LOP as well.

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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:21 pm 
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The Charles Daly 5 lb gun will kick like hell. I would go with a Beretta 391 youth. A little heavier but light recoil. My son was leary of recoil. but shot the 391 just fine.

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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:49 am 
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Don't overlook a 12ga gun. The Beretta 3901Target RL works very well for ladies and kids.


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 Post subject: Re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:35 am 
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jed1894 wrote:
My hunting buddy is trying to buy his son a 20 gauge youth model for X-mas present. Need advice on which to get. Here's what we've looked at so far:

Benelli "short stock" 12 1/2" LOP
Beretta Urika AL391 Youth 13 3/8" LOP
Remington 11-87 youth 13" LOP

I've also heard of a Rem 1000lt20 but I can't find it on their website.


I have both of the bolded ones here for my son. Both have youth and adult stocks. The Benelli is a good bit lighter and adjustable with shims for drop and cast so it will actually fit the shooter. Don't be concerned about it being lighter, very simple to add weight to make it as heavy as the others. Some #9 shot in a piece of bike tire inner tube, taped closed at each end and stuffed between the buttplate and stock internals. Literally no difference in recoil says my 75lb son.

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jed1894 wrote:
Also, his kid is a little short-armed....so anything with short LOP would probably be best. Also, he's interested in putting on a longer stock after the kid grows....can that be done with above guns?

thanks in advance. JED


Yep, all youth stocks can be replaced with adult ones typically.

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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:39 am 
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My son has the Charles Daly youth 20 ga, and it kicked like a mule! We added almost a pound of weight to the buttstock, had a one pound weight turned to replace the plug, and installed a limbsaver recoil pad. Definitely an improvement. My point here.... that's a lot of time and resourcefulness. My preference would be to go with the 1100 (lightest felt recoil of the bunch, IMO) and the stocks are a dime a dozen as Jr. grows.

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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:25 am 
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Another option, if it's too light, to reduce the felt recoil is one of these sweet little babies from Knox Industrial Tactical Gear:

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The nice thing about it is the adjustable length of pull for youths with shorter arms. You can adjust it as they grow. No need to worry about the stocks at all then, so it opens up the door to a lot more choices when picking the shotgun. They cost $139.

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 Post subject: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:55 pm 
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Forgot to add, he's interesting in semi-auto only. I believe after reviewing the post here and doing a little research in the gun store, he's decided on the Benelli "youth stock" or the Beretta 391 youth.

Glad to hear that the stocks can be changed after he grows a little.

Schnable: how's that Benelli kick? (according to you son of course)

JED


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 Post subject: Re: re: Best youth model 20 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:18 pm 
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jed1894 wrote:
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Schnable: how's that Benelli kick? (according to you son of course)

JED


I quote exactly "about twice as much as my 22 or about the same as the M4 (AR15 carbine)" 11yr old, 75 lbs 5' tall
I think it is a bit more recoil than that but still a very pleasant gun to shoot. Try and find a used one, save quite a bit. If you are anywhere near SE Mich you can try this one.

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