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 Post subject: Beretta Prevail ?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:39 am 
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Yesterday I went to pick up my Browning 725 it came in. As I was there looking at the 725 the shop owner said why don't you look at the Beretta Prevail you my like it better.
The Prevail was a nice gun for sure. It felt a little lighter then the Browning and what I like about the Beretta was that it was not as much barrel heavy as the Browning.
Not that the Browning was bad not at all. What I like about the Prevail was the barrel weigh.
I told the owner at the shop let me think about it for a few days. He said OK
Both guns were 30" barrels but I had also a choice of 32" barrels if I wanted them.
So if any one has any input on the Beretta let me know.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:49 am 
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You might get ahold of "trickster" he's been shooting one for a while and may be able to help you out.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Prevail ?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:22 am 
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Kraiza, I also seriously considered the Beretta SV10 Prevail when I decided to buy a new 32" 12 gauge target gun. Strongly stated, the SV10 is an outstanding gun at a very reasonable price tag. I went back and forth between the Prevail and the Browning 725. I had the pleasure of shooting the 725, but not the SV10 Prevail. In the end I chose the 725, because I prefer Brownings.

The SV10 handled like a fine Italian gun which it is, and I'm sure I could have been as happy with it as I am with my 725. Both are excellent guns at the same price point...

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Prevail ?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:48 am 
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I do indeed have a Prevail. My shortlist back then included Zoli & CG but not Browning because the 725 hadn't arrived. I'd had the chance to try a few versions of the SV10 in the form of Perennias & Prevails in 28 & 30, some with KickOff some without. I wasn't comfortable with the K/O system and I thought (and still do think) that the Q-Stock and the other gizmos were just flummery, but there was obviously a pretty good gun under there trying to get out. Then, a guy I see occasionally turned up with a 32" Prevail and forced me to try it out......

It's just a bit better than the 68X family. The barrels are heavier overall than the Gold E but the monobloc is bigger too, and I have no doubt the fully vented tubes are just as light as the Gold E. The action is obviously more rugged than the 68Xs, the triggers are a shade crisper and the pulls are much more consistent. Total weight is a few ounces less than the Gold E and the balance point is fractionally ahead of the hinge but the thing that convinced me, and almost everyone who tries it, is the handling and pointability. It's a real step up IMO because it doesn't have the numbness in the hands that some people find with the Gold E.

Forget about the Q-Stock, the switchable ejectors and the nano ceramic whatever because all those things do is divert attention from it's real strengths.

It's a superb gun for sporting clays.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Prevail ?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:49 pm 
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Trickster:
Can you (or any other Prevail user) furnish us with the actual weight of your Prevail? Published figures aren't necessarily reliable and I'm trying to decide on 12 vs. 20 gauge for a sporting clays O/U. Gun weight is more of an issue than recoil for me. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:47 pm 
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Can you (or any other Prevail user) furnish us with the actual weight of your Prevail?

Mine is a 32" with standard factory extended chokes and I don't have the K/O. On my digital scales it weighs 7lb 12oz which is light for a sporter, but, it doesn't kick any differently than my 8lb 1oz 686E, presumably due to the bore profile. The barrels are stamped 1.57Kg but as I said the monobloc is heftier than on the 68X and that no doubt accounts for the extra 200 or so gms.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:12 pm 
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I think Trickster summed things up very well in my experience.

I've had my Prevail 1, also 32" for a couple of months now and it's by far the best o/u I've owned to date. I've only been shooting sporting clays for 2 years but in that time I've got through an embarrassing amount/variety of guns to find one I feel fully happy with including Brownings and Mirokus as well as other Beretta models.

I'm not bashing any of the other guns I've bought and sold as they were all very good guns in their own right, but there is something about the Prevail that makes me feel more connected to it than I have with any of the previous guns and every time I shoot it I feel the connection getting stronger as well as my confidence and scores.

At the end of the day it's all about personal feel and what works for one may not work for another, so try to shoot as many as you can before making your decision and if possible put at least a box of shells through each as opposed to just a few.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Prevail ?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:53 pm 
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Anyone know what the kind of tool is used to remove the Q-Stock? I bought my Prevail used, and it didn't come with one. TIA.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:02 pm 
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I went to the gun shop today and did a lot of math on what I like it a gun. Barrel weight was more importance that barrel length for me.
I have had my left should operated on. It was a capsule shift. That were the shoulder socket get rotated to keep your shoulder from coming out of the socket. So holding a gun up for a long day of shooting my shoulder bothers me.

As much as I wanted to get another 32" gun I want with a 30" Pervail 3 over the 725.
The 725 and the Prevail in 30" the barrels weigh 3.5 lbs but the Browning had more of the weigh forward. So the Beretta felt better for me.
If I want to shoot a 32" gun I have a DT10L that the barrels weigh 3.5.3 lbs. That go's to show you that if you want a lighter barrel it can cost double or more for a high end gun.
Never the less the Browning 725 and the Beretta Pervail and very nice gun in there price range with out a doubt.
I did get to a sporting clays coarse today but I did shoot two rounds of trap.
48 out of 50 was way better then could even a margin with a new gun.
I was just surprised how well I was doing I just didn't keep my eye on the targets.

Oh the question on the Q wrench it's a torx on a T type wrench. I don't know what size.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Prevail ?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:35 am 
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congrats on the new gun {hs# looking forward to more reviews and remember we gotta have pics :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:26 pm 
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I know I know. I just a little free time and they will be up. :D

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The tool to remove the stock is a torx 30
Hope this helps; Chuck

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Prevail ?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:51 am 
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Good for you and welcome to the club. I hope you like yours as much as I like mine. If I remember you've got a few other Beretta O/Us so I'll be interested in your thoughts when you've clocked up a few miles with it, especially the tightness of the opening/closing with the nifty forend tensioning thingy. I have a theory that keeping the action tight helps with recoil....but it's only a theory...

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta Prevail ?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:10 am 
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Kraiza - congrats on getting fine new gun.

You certainly took a smart and reasoned approach to this - so as to make sure it meets your needs best. Kudos!


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cfoster wrote:
The tool to remove the stock is a torx 30
Hope this helps; Chuck


Thank you.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:00 pm 
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OK hear the pic' of my new Prevail 3 and my 682 Gold E and my 32" DT10L.
I do like the Prevail it handle like a more expensive gun.
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Nice line up!

I know its early days but how do you feel the SV10 compares to the 682 and DT10 given that you have all 3 to compare directly?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:30 pm 
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iggy wrote:
Nice line up!

I know its early days but how do you feel the SV10 compares to the 682 and DT10 given that you have all 3 to compare directly?

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Give me a few days and I'll tell you what I think and why.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:27 pm 
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Remember this me and what I think about my new Beretta Prevail III.
Today I went to Mid Hudson Sporting clays not far from my home. I shot just about 300 rounds.
The prevail was a soft shooting gun and handle well enough that with more time and adjustable comb it could be a read shooter for me.
Likes are the soft recoil and nice trigger and a gun that works well with low gun shooting.
Dislike are the lack of a pom swell. The wrist of the gun was small and I didn't notice that until about 50 plus rounds. I don't hold my guns tight and my hand slide so my finger it the trigger guard.
I don't care for the spring loaded forearm it makes the gun hard to open and it may of caused the top ejector no to work. If I open the gun slow to catch the hulls because I reload. The bottom ejected Evey time but the top would only eject if I open the gun quick. Make no sense but it did.
The gun is at my gunsmith now and he not sure why it is doing it.
Yes we did remove the ejector and there was no dirt or anything that we think could cause it.
The gun can shoot right next to a 682 but it's not a 682. Just has a feeling and better trigger and barrel balance to make it move ahead. If the 682 Gold E is out of your price range you will not cut your self short with Prevail.
I did shoot my DT10L. It is a difference gun and you can feel the dollar difference in the workmanship.
Now for the surprise I also shot me Caesar Guerini Magnus 30 Sporter. Out of all the guns I shot to day the Guerini wins.
Less recoil, better trigger smother opening, better low and high gun shooting. As much as I like all my guns. The Guerini would be my pick if money was on the line.
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my only concern with the Prevail is exactly what your dealer said, it's lighter, and reminds me a bit of a field gun. And, although I'm not a fan of heavy guns, personally, I prefer the heavier 32" 725 as a target gun, especially for occasional trap shooting. Just my 2 cents...



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