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 Post subject: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:40 pm 
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Hi,

I'm about to purchase a used gun for clay sports, and the Miroku's are pretty common here in Sweden and a lot cheaper than Berettas or Browning’s. The models I find here are 800, 3800, 6000 and 7000's. They all seem to come as sporting, trap, skeet and hunting versions.
What are the main differences between them? I've heard a lot about the 3800, but I have yet to find out what the difference is between them and the 6/7000's.

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Kent Kurt
Stockholm, Sweden


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:05 pm 
The 3800 was originally a trap and skeet gun (later the MK38). It now also comes as the MK38 Sporter and is essentially a trap gun with sporting fore end. It is a favourite with many top British shooters. The 6000 was a field and sporting model with fixed chokes, the 7000 the multichoke version. They are now called the MK60/70. All are good sound guns and great value and the choice will come down to stock fit (the 6/7000 are rather low in the comb) and what barrel length and choke combination you want


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:33 am 
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Thanks for your reply, I'll just have to try a few 3800 vs 6/7000 to see what stock fits me the best.
Did the 3800 ever come with multichokes?

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Kent Kurt
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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:13 am 
Yes Kurt, it came with choke tubes, but I'm not sure if those guns were for the European market or if those were just the later guns. There's a guy here in the States who imports the MK38 with choke tubes and sells them for $1500 US


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:51 pm 
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The Miroku 3800 is a fantasic gun , as good if not better than the Browning , not sure if they still make them , if not the 7000 or 6000 will be a great buy , the forend on the 3800 is a good hold . :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:17 pm 
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Thanks, I'll be sure to check out both the 3800 and 6/7000s. The still make them, although slightly updated versions. You can see them on http://www.browningint.com/miroku/index.php. There is a MK 10 model as well, although they're not on the website. I'm looking for a used gun so I'll have some money left for my shooting lessons!
What do you guys know about the older 800 model? There are a lot of them around here, more that 3800's or 6/7000's and a bit cheaper.

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Kent Kurt
Stockholm, Sweden


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:00 pm 
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Hi , Your best bet in my view Kent would be the Miroku 7000 with a 30 inch barrel , you have the advantage of changing your choke pattern , all Mirokus all good guns , in your case for an all round buy would be the 7000

Only my view , lessons with it would also work :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:23 pm 
Just to clarify, the 800 was the 'original' Miroku made in various grades. My 1973 catalogue shows the base model plus 800W (wide rib) 800S (narrow rib), 800SW higher grade and 800HSW (deluxe grade). All are obviously older than the 3800 so buy on condition and pay less than for a 3800. Build quality was outstanding for the price though so a lightly used gun is still a great buy.
The latest MK38 Sporter is now being sold with Teague multichokes.


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:23 pm 
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Thanks "Guest" !
Great info from all of you guys. Tried a friends 3000 last weekend. Felt nice, although a bit light for clays. I hope to try a 3800 soon.

/Kent Kurt
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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:30 pm 
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Hello,

I would like to know if someone can help me to find the real release of a miroku that I will see tomorow. Where may I check ? Because the seller don't know the release, year exactly...

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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:39 pm 
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Hi Kent_Kurt,

I agree with everything the previous posters have said about the various series of Miroku guns that you are interested in. Very good guns for the money and there is a large second hand market in the UK that I know of. They are also very popular here in Australia, especially amongst the sporting clays shooters.

I myself have a 3800 trap gun that I have adapted to a sporter. The gun was given to me by my father and has had at least 100k rounds through it. The action is still very solid & reliable with no trace of looseness at all - it is built like a tank! It was originally fixed choke full/full, but I had Teague chokes installed for sporting clays. It is a heavy gun (~4kg), but handles really well for the longer targets in trap & sporting, but it's a bit too heavy for me to use on skeet! I've handled the newer Miroku sporters and they are lighter, but to my mind still retain the same great swing dynamics of the earlier guns.

In summary, a great way to get into shooting clays for not too much money. Thousands of satisfied users in the UK and Australia can't be wrong!

Here's a link to a gun test on a used Miroku 38 from the UK magazine Clay Shooting:

http://www.clay-shooting.com/guntests/miroku38sporter.pdf

Hopefully the link works for you! Best of luck in your search for a good used Miroku.

Cheers & good shooting!
Sydneysider

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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:52 am 
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Yes Kurt, it came with choke tubes, but I'm not sure if those guns were for the European market or if those were just the later guns. There's a guy here in the States who imports the MK38 with choke tubes and sells them for $1500 US


Hello Guest.... who is the party in the US who's bring in the Mirokus? I would like to buy one.


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:17 pm 
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Does anyone know who's importing these $1500 Mirokus?


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:06 am 
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There is more information than you will want to know about obsolete Miroku guns on Wisner's website.

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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:03 am 
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A5, Do you have a link to that website... or Wisner's business name so I can do a search?


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:35 pm 
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Take a look around at wisnersinc.com.

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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:40 am 
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A5... Thanks... took a look at the site, but all they sell are some limited parts for older guns. They don't sell new Mirokus. I'm trying to find whoever "Guest" was talking about who's importing new Mirokus and selling them for $1500. There's a guy in Maryland by the name of Larry Friedman who had imported a few 20ga and 28ga guns and selling them in that price range, but he's no longer doing that. I bought one of the 28ga guns a few months back. I'm now looking to buy a new standard grade 30" fixed choke MK38 Trap.


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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:23 pm 
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I was reffering the original poster that ask about old Miroku guns to Wisner's.

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 Post subject: Re: Older Miroku models - 3800, 6/7000 etc
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:49 pm 
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A5, Do you have a link to that website... or Wisner's business name so I can do a search?


http://www.wisnersinc.com/

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